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	<title>Comments on: CNC Milling of MDF Plug</title>
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		<title>By: anderswallin.net &#8250; A new spindle for our Opti CNC mill</title>
		<link>http://www.anderswallin.net/2004/11/cnc-milling-of-mdf-plug/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>anderswallin.net &#8250; A new spindle for our Opti CNC mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been busy planning and building a new spindle for our CNC mill. The project is now about half-way so I thought I&#039;d take a few pictures and write some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been busy planning and building a new spindle for our CNC mill. The project is now about half-way so I thought I&#039;d take a few pictures and write some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://www.anderswallin.net/2004/11/cnc-milling-of-mdf-plug/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Klaus,

If you read my blog you will see that we have quite heavily modified our BF-20 for better cnc performance.

With stepper motors and the original ACME screws I would not expect anything above maybe 500mm/min when machining.

With retrofitted ballscrews performance is much better and we can get rapids of 1200mm/min if I remember correctly. Machining is limited to maybe 600-700mm/min mostly because of the limited power of the spindle motor.

Now we will have 500 W servos at the the end of the ballscrews very soon. It will be exciting to test what rapids and machining speeds we get up to. A quick calculation shows that something like 5000mm/min for rapids should be possible! Again spindle rpm and power will limit the maximum usable feed when actually machining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Klaus,</p>
<p>If you read my blog you will see that we have quite heavily modified our BF-20 for better cnc performance.</p>
<p>With stepper motors and the original ACME screws I would not expect anything above maybe 500mm/min when machining.</p>
<p>With retrofitted ballscrews performance is much better and we can get rapids of 1200mm/min if I remember correctly. Machining is limited to maybe 600-700mm/min mostly because of the limited power of the spindle motor.</p>
<p>Now we will have 500 W servos at the the end of the ballscrews very soon. It will be exciting to test what rapids and machining speeds we get up to. A quick calculation shows that something like 5000mm/min for rapids should be possible! Again spindle rpm and power will limit the maximum usable feed when actually machining.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus Bak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus Bak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Great job

I haw a Bf20 that I am going to convert, to Cnc,
And is interested in watt max speed you can pull out
of you Cnc with you current setup.
mm/Min. for the X,Y and Z.    ????

Regards
                   Klaus Bak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Great job</p>
<p>I haw a Bf20 that I am going to convert, to Cnc,<br />
And is interested in watt max speed you can pull out<br />
of you Cnc with you current setup.<br />
mm/Min. for the X,Y and Z.    ????</p>
<p>Regards<br />
                   Klaus Bak</p>
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		<title>By: CNC Information</title>
		<link>http://www.anderswallin.net/2004/11/cnc-milling-of-mdf-plug/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>CNC Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool Project.  I am wondering what type of glue you used on the MDF?

Ivan Irons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Project.  I am wondering what type of glue you used on the MDF?</p>
<p>Ivan Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.anderswallin.net/2004/11/cnc-milling-of-mdf-plug/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My BF20 is less than 6 months old.  Less than 2 hours machine time and the plastic gear Z46 has stripped. Milling mild steel with a 10mm cutter. Local agent does not want to replace gear.  He wants me to pay for it.  Otherwise it is a great machine. If this is a standard gear where can I get one from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My BF20 is less than 6 months old.  Less than 2 hours machine time and the plastic gear Z46 has stripped. Milling mild steel with a 10mm cutter. Local agent does not want to replace gear.  He wants me to pay for it.  Otherwise it is a great machine. If this is a standard gear where can I get one from?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

It all depends on what you want to do - and I&#039;m afraid you get what you pay for when it comes to machine tools...

As a small manual milling machine the BF20 works just fine. When disassembled, it&#039;s small enough to be transported in a normal car with two persons doing some moderate lifting.

We&#039;re moderately happy with our CNC conversion. We&#039;ve produced a number of MDF plugs like the one in this story, done some work in aluminium, and also a bit of steel.

There are two problems with the stock machine for CNC use: The linear guides and the leadscrews. The linear guides are of the dovetail type which means that they need to be tightened a fair bit to get decent accuracy. However you can&#039;t tighten them indefinitely because then your axis motor won&#039;t be able to turn. We have 280 Ncm holding torque steppers right now and sometimes it feels too little.
The leadscrews are ordinary threaded screws with a pitch of 2 mm/rev for X and Y and 4 mm/rev for Z. They have some backlash in them and are not the most accurate around.

After about three years of maybe 1-2 weekend/month use we burned the AC/DC speed control card for the DC spindle motor. The Finnish importer of the machine sent us a free replacement.

So, if you want a small manual milling machine in this price class, I think go for it. If you want a good CNC machine, it needs ballbearing linear guides and ballscrews - this is going to be a big job if you want to retrofit them on this machine (but so is building a cnc machine entirely from scratch...)

Our next machine (still on the drawing board) will use servos as axis motors, have a larger work envelope, and use linear guides and ballscrews.

hope this was of some help,

Anders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>It all depends on what you want to do - and I'm afraid you get what you pay for when it comes to machine tools...</p>
<p>As a small manual milling machine the BF20 works just fine. When disassembled, it's small enough to be transported in a normal car with two persons doing some moderate lifting.</p>
<p>We're moderately happy with our CNC conversion. We've produced a number of MDF plugs like the one in this story, done some work in aluminium, and also a bit of steel.</p>
<p>There are two problems with the stock machine for CNC use: The linear guides and the leadscrews. The linear guides are of the dovetail type which means that they need to be tightened a fair bit to get decent accuracy. However you can't tighten them indefinitely because then your axis motor won't be able to turn. We have 280 Ncm holding torque steppers right now and sometimes it feels too little.<br />
The leadscrews are ordinary threaded screws with a pitch of 2 mm/rev for X and Y and 4 mm/rev for Z. They have some backlash in them and are not the most accurate around.</p>
<p>After about three years of maybe 1-2 weekend/month use we burned the AC/DC speed control card for the DC spindle motor. The Finnish importer of the machine sent us a free replacement.</p>
<p>So, if you want a small manual milling machine in this price class, I think go for it. If you want a good CNC machine, it needs ballbearing linear guides and ballscrews - this is going to be a big job if you want to retrofit them on this machine (but so is building a cnc machine entirely from scratch...)</p>
<p>Our next machine (still on the drawing board) will use servos as axis motors, have a larger work envelope, and use linear guides and ballscrews.</p>
<p>hope this was of some help,</p>
<p>Anders</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Maynard</title>
		<link>http://www.anderswallin.net/2004/11/cnc-milling-of-mdf-plug/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I am interested in buying the BF20 mill and would like to know how happy you are with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I am interested in buying the BF20 mill and would like to know how happy you are with it.</p>
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