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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Klaus,

If you read my blog you will see that we have quite heavily modified our BF-20 for better cnc performance.

With stepper motors and the original ACME screws I would not expect anything above maybe 500mm/min when machining.

With retrofitted ballscrews performance is much better and we can get rapids of 1200mm/min if I remember correctly. Machining is limited to maybe 600-700mm/min mostly because of the limited power of the spindle motor.

Now we will have 500 W servos at the the end of the ballscrews very soon. It will be exciting to test what rapids and machining speeds we get up to. A quick calculation shows that something like 5000mm/min for rapids should be possible! Again spindle rpm and power will limit the maximum usable feed when actually machining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Klaus,</p>
<p>If you read my blog you will see that we have quite heavily modified our BF-20 for better cnc performance.</p>
<p>With stepper motors and the original ACME screws I would not expect anything above maybe 500mm/min when machining.</p>
<p>With retrofitted ballscrews performance is much better and we can get rapids of 1200mm/min if I remember correctly. Machining is limited to maybe 600-700mm/min mostly because of the limited power of the spindle motor.</p>
<p>Now we will have 500 W servos at the the end of the ballscrews very soon. It will be exciting to test what rapids and machining speeds we get up to. A quick calculation shows that something like 5000mm/min for rapids should be possible! Again spindle rpm and power will limit the maximum usable feed when actually machining.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus Bak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus Bak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Great job

I haw a Bf20 that I am going to convert, to Cnc,
And is interested in watt max speed you can pull out
of you Cnc with you current setup.
mm/Min. for the X,Y and Z.    ????

Regards 
                   Klaus Bak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Great job</p>
<p>I haw a Bf20 that I am going to convert, to Cnc,<br />
And is interested in watt max speed you can pull out<br />
of you Cnc with you current setup.<br />
mm/Min. for the X,Y and Z.    ????</p>
<p>Regards<br />
                   Klaus Bak</p>
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		<title>By: CNC Information</title>
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		<dc:creator>CNC Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool Project.  I am wondering what type of glue you used on the MDF?

Ivan Irons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Project.  I am wondering what type of glue you used on the MDF?</p>
<p>Ivan Irons</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My BF20 is less than 6 months old.  Less than 2 hours machine time and the plastic gear Z46 has stripped. Milling mild steel with a 10mm cutter. Local agent does not want to replace gear.  He wants me to pay for it.  Otherwise it is a great machine. If this is a standard gear where can I get one from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My BF20 is less than 6 months old.  Less than 2 hours machine time and the plastic gear Z46 has stripped. Milling mild steel with a 10mm cutter. Local agent does not want to replace gear.  He wants me to pay for it.  Otherwise it is a great machine. If this is a standard gear where can I get one from?</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

It all depends on what you want to do - and I&#039;m afraid you get what you pay for when it comes to machine tools...

As a small manual milling machine the BF20 works just fine. When disassembled, it&#039;s small enough to be transported in a normal car with two persons doing some moderate lifting.

We&#039;re moderately happy with our CNC conversion. We&#039;ve produced a number of MDF plugs like the one in this story, done some work in aluminium, and also a bit of steel.

There are two problems with the stock machine for CNC use: The linear guides and the leadscrews. The linear guides are of the dovetail type which means that they need to be tightened a fair bit to get decent accuracy. However you can&#039;t tighten them indefinitely because then your axis motor won&#039;t be able to turn. We have 280 Ncm holding torque steppers right now and sometimes it feels too little.
The leadscrews are ordinary threaded screws with a pitch of 2 mm/rev for X and Y and 4 mm/rev for Z. They have some backlash in them and are not the most accurate around.

After about three years of maybe 1-2 weekend/month use we burned the AC/DC speed control card for the DC spindle motor. The Finnish importer of the machine sent us a free replacement.

So, if you want a small manual milling machine in this price class, I think go for it. If you want a good CNC machine, it needs ballbearing linear guides and ballscrews - this is going to be a big job if you want to retrofit them on this machine (but so is building a cnc machine entirely from scratch...)

Our next machine (still on the drawing board) will use servos as axis motors, have a larger work envelope, and use linear guides and ballscrews.

hope this was of some help,

Anders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>It all depends on what you want to do &#8211; and I&#8217;m afraid you get what you pay for when it comes to machine tools&#8230;</p>
<p>As a small manual milling machine the BF20 works just fine. When disassembled, it&#8217;s small enough to be transported in a normal car with two persons doing some moderate lifting.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re moderately happy with our CNC conversion. We&#8217;ve produced a number of MDF plugs like the one in this story, done some work in aluminium, and also a bit of steel.</p>
<p>There are two problems with the stock machine for CNC use: The linear guides and the leadscrews. The linear guides are of the dovetail type which means that they need to be tightened a fair bit to get decent accuracy. However you can&#8217;t tighten them indefinitely because then your axis motor won&#8217;t be able to turn. We have 280 Ncm holding torque steppers right now and sometimes it feels too little.<br />
The leadscrews are ordinary threaded screws with a pitch of 2 mm/rev for X and Y and 4 mm/rev for Z. They have some backlash in them and are not the most accurate around.</p>
<p>After about three years of maybe 1-2 weekend/month use we burned the AC/DC speed control card for the DC spindle motor. The Finnish importer of the machine sent us a free replacement.</p>
<p>So, if you want a small manual milling machine in this price class, I think go for it. If you want a good CNC machine, it needs ballbearing linear guides and ballscrews &#8211; this is going to be a big job if you want to retrofit them on this machine (but so is building a cnc machine entirely from scratch&#8230;)</p>
<p>Our next machine (still on the drawing board) will use servos as axis motors, have a larger work envelope, and use linear guides and ballscrews.</p>
<p>hope this was of some help,</p>
<p>Anders</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Maynard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I am interested in buying the BF20 mill and would like to know how happy you are with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I am interested in buying the BF20 mill and would like to know how happy you are with it.</p>
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